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ash48HA! This captures what was going on for me INTERNALLY. I thought me uttering a quiet "Sammy" was going a tad overboard...but this... LOLZ
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Date: 2013-06-02 09:39 pm (UTC)Carver though? I honestly think Carver is going to go for the Happy Ever After. Problem with that though is that he's pounded into my head over and over this year how miserable Sam is hunting and how happy Dean is hunting and determined to guilt Sam at every turn to stay with him. Dear god I hate Carver for that.
There's a 1000 words I could writer here about why I feel this is coming, but it would all boil down to Dean happily hunting from the MOL bunker with human Cas, Charlie, Kevin and all the others he's been "friends/family/brother/sister" with this season. Sam, who's been far more isolated from most of these characters will walk away, maybe back to school, maybe back to Amelia, but somewhere free of hunting where he too can be happy. Carver's already shown us how easy that would be, something I never thought could be possible, did I say how much I hate Carver for that? Yeah, I do.
The hero always wins doesn't he? Always gets his girl and his walk into the sunset. SPN has always been the hero's journey and Sam's is the journey we've been following since the Pilot. He was happy there and I feel Carver will mirror this in the final episode.
It's not what I ever wanted, I can't tell you how upset I feel over this, how I never, ever thought it would happen this way, and I agree, it might not happen this way, next season might take a huge turn somewhere, but right now, Carver's basic imagining of who these characters are and his re-imagining of so much canon I held dear has turned me sour and I get so bloody sad every episode I watch thinking about how this mess could ever be resolved.
As the saying goes - "stick a fork in me, I'm done"
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Date: 2013-06-03 09:28 am (UTC)I have to say I hadn't really considered where it's going, but I can definitely see this as a possibility.
Hmmm...it's tricky. I can see that each of them finding their own happiness is a way it could most definitely end. On the one hand I can see how that would be a satisfying conclusion in that they have each found a way to be happy without the other. But on the other hand - NO.
In the episode where Dean put his feet up in the batcave I felt like there was an ending I could be happy with. A new life, a new home, together for ever etc. etc.
I would be shocked if Cas remains human until the end - though, I suppose it's a possibility. I just can't think what story they could give him that would involve him being human until the end. I'd say finding his grace and returning to heaven will be his happy ending.
I would also struggle to believe that Sam would find his happiness in either going back to Amelia or going back to school. I would be extremely disappointed if it came down to that. Finding a new calling/occupation (maybe connected to the MoL) maybe, but not going back to something he has said he never really fit into.
Dean guilting Sam into hunting IS a big issue and it's something I'm trying to work through. Hmmm... I never really thought about it like that. I've been too caught up in my annoyance that they made Sam a brother who had a mental breakdown (one assumes) and didn't make an effort to look for his brother. I want Sam to be able to make his decision to remaining hunting for himself - which I don't think he'd done yet (well - he DID - ages ago, but they've done a reset and for some reason they decided to revisit all that again). Oh dammit it's tricky - I would say that Sam felt guilty as soon as Dean turned up. I thought he put that on himself. I know Dean was feeling bitter that Sam didn't look for him (and I can't say I blame him for that) so there was some guilt laying on Dean's account. I think Dean gave Sam a genuine out when he told him to go back to Amelia. I felt that Sam made the choice to go back to Dean realising that he couldn't have a real relationship with Amelia (it doesn't help that we never felt that Sam actually loved Amelia so it makes his choice see obvious).
Oh now I'm all thinky about that....
I'm still open minded and hopeful that there will be many awesome stories and episodes to come before we see where they plan to end it. I'd be surprised if they've thought that far ahead - but I keep thinking that Carver gave us some awesome bro episode and moments and feel that he does understand the foundation that this show is built on. HE BETTER!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me hun. <333
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Date: 2013-06-03 08:51 pm (UTC)I honestly don't know where it will all end, maybe they don't as yet, or maybe they do. Sometimes it's hard to stand at the end of the season and wonder if they did change course at any time or whether the whole thing was meticulously plotted from the opening episode. Did they choose not to have Sam look for Dean and all the outfall of that with the express purpose of the trial and those final scenes in the last episodes? I really don't know, but it still feels far too much like manipulating a square peg into a round hole when there were already plenty of square holes they could have used.
I haven't really thought that much about what they'll do with Cas - bound to be more riotous knocking over of canned goods, playing of twister, making sandwiches - *rolls eyes*. I expect he'll have to learn to drive, fire a weapon, shower, wash his clothes - 14 episodes? No thanks. Hope he does find his grace, I'd much rather have a supernatural angel around
I agree though, that we did get some brilliant brother scenes, I just wished they added up in a more coherent fashion and not felt a little bolted on at times.
For me it's the sheer misery that the necessity of hunting settles over Sam that I just can't deal with. I have to have that dealt with soon. I kind of agree with Dean in that sense - in or out, and live with the decision, sadly I think I'll always see Sam as wanting out.
Thanks for listening hon, I always appreciate your non judgemental spaces and I expect I'll be around somewhere. *hugs*